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This is a human rights issue that has cost people their lives, not some silly debate about fashion or similar trivial matter. Singer and actress Bette Midler became recognized as a gay icon in the s. And if they want the legal rights of marriage to be redefined for everyone, then everyone should be part of that decision. Of course you are correct, we can change the laws if society wants to, but that argument is solely based on society's wishes rather than any moral, logical or noble standpoint. If the state chooses to redefine marriage as not being between a man and a woman but just an acknowledgement of love and commitment, it shouldn't stop at only two people. That said I will be glad when it's out of the way.

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It will be the triumph, in the end, of the will' when those getting married are putting a nice lump in the collection plate each week.

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I oppose same-sex marriage (and no, I'm not a bigot)

Retrieved 7 March New York Daily News. It might assist if you stop thinking in terms of some disembodied group called "the gays" and start thinking of them and their families and friends as they really are: By difference, I assume you are talking about propagation. That's fine and good, but the discrimination card doesn't wash. BUT if I myself were faced with having no children because of my gender and sexual orientation or taking a child from a poor third world country to be raised by myself and my same sex partner

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For the record I never stated that Dr Jensen doesnt beleive in marriage for procreation but clarrified that he recogised that not all maraiges result in children. Archived from the original on September 23, To allow SSM will change what marriage means and for what? Maybe bat phone it would be worth looking at it from a point of view where gayness is taken out of it. And who are "they" in your mind, exactly? Poet and satirical writer Dorothy Parker reportedly had a large gay following.

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